from Lawrence, SATURDAY this WEEK PhiloMadrid meeting: Hope

This week's meeting is on SATURDAY 4th JANUARY 6:30pm

Dear Friends

Happy New Year everyone!!

The last time we discussed Hope was in September 2009. And like today I
did not write an essay for the meeting. Fortunately, today Ruel has sent
us a link to his essay.

So to think that we discussed Hope four and a bit years ago and we are
still meeting suggests that there is still hope for us.

But hope is a very peculiar emotion since it seems to bridge our pull to
obtain what we need and desire over our near certain knowledge that
these will never be obtained. A kind of epistemological leap to
neutralise the state of contradiction that we find ourselves in by
wanting things we know we cannot have.

This feat no doubt demonstrates the physical overbearing power of
emotions over rational thinking; even if that thinking is inductive or
intuitive thinking. But does this make hope an irrational activity? Does
this mean that when push comes to shove, the emotions rule our lives
completely?

Moreover, would we be better off to assess our possible outcomes by
applying more rational means to assess our realistic situation:
probability, induction, evidence? And maybe then desire things that can
actually be acquired? Indeed is hope for things we can actually get
qualify as hoping?

On the other hand what is it we are hoping for? Is it something to make
us feel good or better or it is something to relieve us from
desperation? We generally accept hope to be a good thing, something to
keep us going, which is all well and good when what we want is just the
latest gadget on the market. But what if what we hope for is something
we need to survive?

The issue about hoping for something related to survival in a rational
world is that this might be because the cooperative framework of our
society is becoming unravelled. Should we depend on hope when we need
help or should we expect help when we need it?

In the meantime this is Ruel's link:
Happy New Year, Lawrence!
Below is the link to what I wrote for the PhiloMadrid topic we have on
Saturday.

http://ruelfpepa.wordpress.com/2013/12/31/on-hope/
See you on Saturday.

Best,
Ruel

Finally, after being asked many times to prepare a list of the topics
that were suggested in the past, I finally got down and took some images
of the topic lists in my notes. I picked these up randomly and are from
various dates and years. Hope you can read my handwriting!!!
http://philomadrid.blogspot.com/2014/01/suggested-past-topics.html

Don't forget it is SATURDAY this weekend.

all the best

Lawrence


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from Lawrence, SATURDAY this WEEK PhiloMadrid meeting: Hope

from Lawrence, Pub Philosophy Group, Sunday meeting: Hope + request from Michael and 2 meetings

Michael: looking for a flat
Miguel: TERTULIA DE MATEMÁTICAS (in Spanish) Martes 22nd September
Carlos: CONVOCATORIA-REUNIÓN DE COMISIONES Club del Hombre Libre 23 de
Septiembre (Women as well)

Dear friends,

This week we are discussing Hope.

Maybe an emotion that is strange because its function is to override
rationally obvious or self evident negative events or conclusions. And
the hope we are interested is the one that is close to a definition of
wishful thinking or nearly impossible to happen sort of desires. So, I
hope you are well is not the same as I hope you will get well. There is
a gulf of difference between the two.

Although at the subjective level I would be inclined to think that hope
is a negative feeling (emotion), this does not mean that the world out
there is determined to take a negative course of action. Just because we
are left with only hope between our life and desperation, the world
might turn out to be kind to us.

Talking about hope, Michael, Carlos and Miguel have asked me to share
with you the following messages:

--------- Michael ----------

hola compas,

vuelvo a la carga madrilena el dia 23 y busco 1 piso
compartido, "centrico", con 1 parte exterior,
desde el 23Sept o 1 Octubre, unos 300-350epm

yo, (profe de) ingles, 8 anyos Madrid, acostombrado
compartir, hablo castellano, tranqui, responsable..

Also, looking for P/T business english work, pref
central", pref lunch-eve.Native UK, 8 yrs. experience
Madr.
ta

saludos, ns vemos pronto!!

michael m

691 871 267

------------------- Miguel ------------------
TERTULIA DE MATEMÁTICAS (in Spanish) next Tuesday Martes 22nd de
September from 19:00 to 21:00 at Locandita, c/ Fuencarral 148.

I resend the graphics in a tiff format instead of jpeg hoping they'll
arrive this time:

1. TEMA
Mosaicos de Penrose y otras teselaciones del plano. Introducción a cargo
de Miguel Gª Palomo

2. PROBLEMA
Continuamos con el problema de la tertulia anterior y añadimos este otro:
(image 1 here found on Blog at http://philomadrid.blogspot.com in the
copy of this email)
(image 2 here found on Blog at http://philomadrid.blogspot.com in the
copy of this email)

3. CITA
How can it be that mathematics, being after all a product of human
thought independent of experience, is so admirably adapted to the
objects of reality?
Einstein, Albert (1879-1955)

4. MATHFUN
"Do you love your math more than me?"
"Of course not, dear - I love you much more."
"Then prove it!"
"OK. Let L be the set of all lovable objects..."

------------- Carlos -------------

CONVOCATORIA-REUNIÓN DE COMISIONES
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Estimados Amigos, Socios, y Simpatizantes:

Por la presente os convocamos a una Reunión de Trabajo de las Comisiones
del Club del Hombre Libre el próximo 23 de Septiembre, Miércoles, de 20
a 21 horas, en el Centro Cultural Galileo, C/ Galileo Nº 39.

Las Comisiones nos permiten poner en práctica la acción social en el
Distrito de Chamberí, para trabajar en intereses y problemas comunes.

La segunda área de acción social son los Actos Culturales, tales como
los Crepúsculos Culturales de Olavide, que ponen de relieve la riqueza
cultural y creativa en el distrito.

La tercera área de trabajo son las Conferencias, en las que respetados
profesionales comparten con nosotros sus conocimientos, aplicados
siempre a la Libertad.

He aquí algunas Comisiones en funcionamiento:

* Culinaria *De Comerciantes *Del Maltrato
*De Ética y Filosofía *De la Tercera Edad *De Economía
*De Protección a los *De la Soledad *Del Barrio
Animales* Del Trabajo *De Cultura *Del Transporte

Próximos Eventos:

Programa de Otoño del 2009
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* 11 de Octubre (Domingo) De 18:00 a 21:00 horas
Sala Clamores, C/Alburquerque, 14
Concierto de Rock
Presentación del Proyecto Cultural: Crepúsculos
Culturales de Olavide, Una Historia

• 24 de Noviembre (Martes) 20:00 horas
Conferencia
Hotel Intercontinental, Pº de la Castellana, 49.

* 15 de Diciembre (Martes) 20:00 horas
Cena de Hermandad
Hotel Intercontinental

Por límites de aforo rogamos Confirmen Asistencia: 615268045
914455228
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591474 (G 1, S1).
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Take care

Lawrence

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from Lawrence, Pub Philosophy Group, Sunday meeting: Hope + request from
Michael and 2 meetings