Tuesday, March 31, 2020

Topics for SUNDAY 5th April 2020


Topics for SUNDAY 5th April 2020 meeting at 6:30pm





Dear Friends,

As you can see from the list of topics it is only right that we discuss the present pandemic crisis we find ourselves in. The list below is a good representation of the key issues surrounding our topic:

Civil liberties in a post pandemic society.

“Life is absurd (meaningless)”

Is it possible to live isolated from people ?

Patience

Is this an era of changes or a change of era?

"What's Wrong With Us?"


In the meantime we also have a good list of subjects for future meetings.

Best Lawrence






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From Simon
Civil liberties in a post pandemic society.



From James

Some ideas:
- Is it possible to live isolated from people ?
- we are the result of our actions!
- we are responsible for everything that happens to us !
- Is it ethical to lie in politics



From Carmen
Patience

From:Felipe
Is this an era of changes or a change of era?


From Ruel:
1. "What's Wrong With Us?"
2. "Work Does Not Pay"


From Mariona:
My suggestions are:
“are we objects or subjects”
“Life is absurd (meaningless)”

PhiloMadrid this Sunday Skype Meeting: request for topics.

Dear Friends,
 
I am writing early to ask you for topics for this coming Sunday Skype meeting.
 
If you could, therefore, kindly send me a few topics we might discuss I'd appreciate it. I'll put the topics on the website as you send them here:
 
https://www.philomadrid.com/
 
You may send me an email or even whatsApp, 606081813, and then on Thursday night I'll decide what topic/s to discuss. I'll put the final topic on the website so please check the website on Thursday/Friday.
 
I won't be sending another email this week, but let me know if you need the Skype link.
 
Best and thanks
 
Lawrence
 
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MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/PhiloMadrid-philosophy-group/
 
 
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Thursday, March 26, 2020

This PhiloMadrid Sunday open discussion

Dear Friends,
 
Hope you are keeping well.
 
This Sunday we'll try and discuss on Skype: a reasonable topic  
 
Hopefully we'll come up with a topic on Sunday.
 
Best and Keep safe
 
Lawrence
 
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PhiloMadrid meetings by Skype 6:30pm: Women in the past and now
 
 This PhiloMadrid  Sunday open discussion
 






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Thursday, March 19, 2020

PhiloMadrid meetings by Skype 6:30pm: Women in the past and now

Dear Friends,
 
Hope you are keeping well.
 
This Sunday we'll try and discuss on Skype: Women in the past and now.
 
Women in the past and now - Mariona
 https://ataraxiastuff.wixsite.com/website/post/womeninthepastandnow
 
Women in the past and now - Lawrence
https://www.philomadrid.com/2020/03/women-in-past-and-now.html
 
Unfortunately Clara did not reply to my email earlier today: just in case she replies I'll let you know.
 
So the idea is to use Skype as our platform to communicate. So if you have Skype please send me a request to send you the link to join the meeting. If you are not familiar with Skype let me know early to try and fix something.
 
Finally, since this is unknown territory we'll have to play it by ear!!!! So let say we ca kick off at 6:30pm.

 
 
Best and Keep safe
 
Lawrence
 
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MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/PhiloMadrid-philosophy-group/
 
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Women in the past and now

Women in the past and now

Ignaz Semmelweis was a Hungarian physician ought to be recognised as one of the most important persons who has done more for women and women’s health. But you’ll be excused if you don’t know anything about him. Basically, Semmelweis* saw the connection between the washing of hands after handling cadavers and then moving on to handle female patients in the Obstetrical clinic: the main cause of childbed fever. Unfortunately, his initial work was rejected by his peers to the extent of ridiculing him and some even argue murdering him. It wasn’t until some twenty years after his death that the profession saw the value of Semmelweis’s efforts when Louis Pasteur presented his germ theory of disease. Semmelweis is know as the "saviour of mothers" since his observations saved a lot of women.

The historical context of Semmelweis, discoveries show how progress is not always a straightforward affair. Indeed a key problem with the profession at the time was to reject the “empirical” evidence with established prejudice, for example the idea of doctors being responsible for the childbed fever. Of course, they were but not because they were doctors but because they did not take precaution when handling corpses. And only doctors handled corpses.

The underlying problem with the Semmelweis story is not that his peers were prejudiced against women or that Semmelweis saw childbed fever as a discrimination against women. But rather the empirical fact of having a high mortality rate during childbirth was a condition of being a woman giving childbirth.

In effect what have not changed over time are our prejudices and assumptions. It is however, important to distinguish discrimination from prejudice: prejudice is an epistemic problem whereas discrimination is an intentional act to disadvantage people.

I would argue that the debate about the earning gap between women and men is one of discrimination some would even say exploitation. This would imply that the problem is a political one, if not a legal problem. Of course, financial discrimination is not only limited to gender to disfavour women but affects males and females. People are discriminated throughout the world and people take advantage of others on a daily basis. So identifying the real motives as opposed to succumbing to some misguided prejudice is key to teasing out the philosophical issue.

In 2017 it was reported** by AAMC that for the first time more women enrolled in medical schools than men. However, Junming Huang et al published a paper in 2020 “Historical comparison of gender inequality in scientific careers across countries and disciplines”** refer to what they call the ““productivity puzzle”. The authors studied the publishing results of male and female scientists. The productivity puzzle is that although both genders publish the same amount of papers, women tend to have different publishing careers and might even drop out.

This paper seems to have two key shortcomings: it covered 83 countries and did not account for cultural differences. An attempt to explain the productivity puzzle by men staying longer in their career or some other reason such as earnings is somewhat flawed.

The scientific method does not depend on how much money a person earns for it be accepted as good science. Secondly the problem of applying mathematical analysis to data to answer social hypothesis is that there are too many factors influencing a decision why a journal publishes a paper or not. For example, is there a language bias against some authors given that most High Impact journals are published in English speaking countries.

I am inclined to believe and argue that the problem is linked to money. But not to the earnings of the scientist; better income is always an incentive to work harder, but  the scope is very limited. Crappy wages do not necessarily make crappy science.

I would argue that this discrimination is based on limited access to funding to carry out the science in the first place. Junming Huang et al do identify such key factors as, academic rank, and indeed resource allocation. In effect by simply looking at income disparity rather than the career discrimination we have shifted the problem to somewhere else.

Of course, the more we become a knowledge bases society, the less the disparity between males and females.

Best Lawrence



*Ignaz Semmelweis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

**More Women Than Men Enrolled in U.S. Medical Schools in 2017
https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/press-releases/more-women-men-enrolled-us-medical-schools-2017

***Historical comparison of gender inequality in scientific careers across countries and disciplines
https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1914221117

Thursday, March 12, 2020

Re: PhiloMadrid meetings: Meetings suspended - details in email.

 
Dear Friends,
 
Thank you very much for your quick and reasonable reply to my request for feedback on future meetings and the CoronaVirus problems.
 
The consensus, and I am sure we will all agree, is to suspend the meetings until we have some official clearance about the situation. I will certainly keep an eye on the situation and will certainly consult you again before we do anything.
 
In the meantime, we still have this topic pending: Women in the past and now.
 
I don't imagine we will be meeting anytime soon so what I propose is maybe move onto the internet until all this is sorted out and maybe use Skype, WhatsApp or maybe start some sort of messaging group on the blog. Any ideas will be appreciated, but one step at a time.
 
Finally, essays! If you have an essay on the pending topic please send it to me to post them Thursday next week. Or maybe you can post your essay on your blog or on Google Docs and send me the link: please let me know if you want me to check your essay before hand.
 
Best and Keep safe
 
Lawrence
 
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MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/PhiloMadrid-philosophy-group/
 
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Tuesday, March 10, 2020

re Our PhiloMadrid meeting and the virus - feedback please!

re Our PhiloMadrid meeting and the virus - feedback please!
 
Dear Friends,
 
In view of the situation regarding the coronavirus: should we postpone this Sunday's meeting for the following Sunday? Depending on the situation then.
 
Please send me your feedback if you can. I personally don't mind whether we have the meeting or not.
 
Best Lawrence
Tel 606081813
 
 
 






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Thursday, March 05, 2020

From Lawrence, next PhiloMadrid meeting 15th MARCH 2020: Women in the past and now

Dear Friends,
 
Due to the demonstration this Sunday on the International Day of the Woman we are not having a meeting this weekend. Our next meeting will, therefore, be on the 15th March.
 
Our next topic is: Women in the past and now.
 
If you wish to write an essay please send it to me before Thursday next week; or send me a link to the essay on your blog or a Google Document.
 
In the meantime you might want to listen to this podcast on the subject:
Kathleen Stock on What is a Woman?
https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3BoaWxvc29waHliaXRlcy5saWJzeW4uY29tL3Jzcw&episode=ZjA4NDMyOTM3M2NiNDZhZTk0ZjMxZjk5MTU4YzQyYzM
 
Best and see you in two weeks time
 
Lawrence
 
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MeetUp https://www.meetup.com/PhiloMadrid-philosophy-group/
Gran Clavel (Café-Bar): Gran vía 11, esquina C/ Clavel, 28013—Madrid
 
 
From Lawrence, next PhiloMadrid meeting 15th MARCH 2020: Women in the past and now
 
 
 






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